ETF of the Moment: Software Isn't Dead, Yet | Trillions

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Bloomberg PodcastsJun 11, 2026

Why It Matters

CLOU’s strong earnings beat and price rally challenge the narrative that software is dying, offering investors a data‑driven, contrarian entry into a resilient cloud‑software nexus.

Key Takeaways

  • Cloud computing ETF (CLOU) outperforms despite software‑sector pessimism.
  • 93% of CLOU’s top holdings beat earnings expectations.
  • Software‑cloud link drives resilience; investors shifting risk‑on stance.
  • Small ETF size (≈$2 M) leads to liquidity considerations.
  • Quantitative screening uncovers niche ETFs before mainstream popularity.

Summary

The Trillions podcast spotlighted the CLOU cloud‑computing ETF, arguing that the software sector’s supposed demise was premature. Hosts Joel Weber and Eric Balunis explained their “ETF of the Moment” methodology—combining short‑term return spikes, volume surges, and news relevance—to surface emerging themes before they become mainstream. Key data points reinforced the thesis: CLOU’s top 20 holdings represent about 80% of assets, and roughly 70% of those are software firms, with an impressive 93% beating earnings forecasts. This earnings beat, coupled with a 20% price gain since Q1, suggests the sector’s fundamentals remain strong despite earlier risk‑off sentiment. Andre Yap highlighted the overlap between software and cloud services, noting that giants like CrowdStrike, Oracle, Palo Alto and Salesforce anchor the fund. He likened the current narrative to the “mall death” myth of a decade ago—overblown panic followed by rapid adaptation. Comparisons to larger ETFs such as IGV underscored CLOU’s niche positioning and its potential to capture upside missed by broader funds. For investors, CLOU offers a contrarian play on a small, $2 million vehicle, meaning tighter spreads and careful order execution. The discussion emphasized that quantitative screening can surface hidden gems, and that the software‑cloud nexus may sustain momentum as the macro environment steadies, making early exposure potentially rewarding.

Original Description

Earlier this year, investors got hammered by the "SaaSpocalypse." The rise of AI sparked fears that software companies would need fewer workers, sell fewer licenses and spend heavily on technology with uncertain payoffs. Yet just a few months later, one little-known ETF — with only $2.5 million in assets — is quietly suggesting that software's death may have been slightly exaggerated.
On this episode of Trillions, Eric Balchunas and Joel Weber speak with Bloomberg Intelligence ETF associate Andrey Yapp about another ETF that's having a moment: Themes Cloud Computing ETF (ticker CLOD). They discuss what makes the ETF's holdings interesting, how recent earnings challenged the AI-doom narrative, and how such a tiny fund emerged as one worth watching.
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