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Why the Next AI Frontier Is Phone Calls, with Beside CEO Maxime Germain
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•December 12, 2025•1h 6m
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ACCESS•Dec 12, 2025
Key Takeaways
- •Beside replaces phone and messaging with AI-driven communication platform.
- •Real economy users prioritize AI phone over Zoom and Docs.
- •OpenAI's code red highlights tension between engagement and ethical AI.
- •Competitors like Google Gemini pressure ChatGPT to improve personalization.
- •Spotify and Instagram test user‑controlled algorithm prompts via natural language.
Pulse Analysis
Beside, founded by Maxime Germain, is positioning its AI‑powered service as a direct replacement for traditional phone and messaging apps. By unifying voice calls, texts, and AI assistants into a single interface, the startup targets the "real economy"—workers who spend most of their day on mobile devices rather than on Zoom or Google Docs. This focus on everyday productivity differentiates Beside from many AI tools that cater primarily to tech‑savvy developers, offering a tangible value proposition for small businesses, field teams, and even niche users like churches.
The episode also delves into OpenAI's recent "code red," a crisis sparked by declining user engagement and internal debates over leveraging user data for more persuasive experiences. As Google Gemini gains traction, OpenAI is forced to balance aggressive personalization with ethical concerns about manipulation. Industry observers note that the pressure to add instant checkout links and proactive recommendations mirrors earlier Google strategies, while competitors such as Anthropic experiment with distinct personality models. This competitive landscape underscores the broader shift toward AI that not only answers queries but also drives commercial actions, raising questions about long‑term user trust.
Finally, the conversation highlights a growing trend of giving users natural‑language control over recommendation algorithms. Spotify’s prompt‑driven playlists and Instagram’s customizable Reels algorithm illustrate how platforms are responding to demand for transparency and agency. While these features promise a more tailored experience, they also expose tensions between user empowerment and platform revenue models. The discussion ties this evolution to larger media battles, such as Netflix’s push to acquire Warner Bros. content to compete with YouTube’s massive engagement, illustrating how AI‑enhanced personalization is reshaping competition across entertainment and productivity sectors.
Episode Description
The ACCESS Podcast covers the week's biggest moves in AI, tech, and media.
This week, we dive into the industry shake-up: OpenAI is reportedly at a "Code Red" over Google's Gemini gains, while Apple and Meta are battling fiercely for top AI talent. We also touch on Netflix bidding for Warner Brothers as Paramount watches.
Then, we sit down with special guest Maxime Germain, Founder and CEO of Beside. Beside is the AI receptionist answering millions of calls for over 20,000 businesses.
Maxime shares the story of Beside, which spent 18 months in stealth under the name M1 and has already reached $4 million in Annual Recurring Revenue. We discuss:
How Beside handles 2.5 million phone calls per month.
Building an AI startup in Europe versus the US.
Why they chose to build an "AI Receptionist" instead of another "meeting" app, focusing on the "real economy".
Their long-term plan to become a full mobile carrier with SIM-level integration.
Thoughts on AI memory and why everyone says their moats are disappearing daily.
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