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Deep-dive, long-form literary interviews with today’s most vital thinkers and writers.

Saul Williams : Martyr Loser King
PodcastMay 8, 20262h 42m

Saul Williams : Martyr Loser King

In this episode, poet‑musician‑filmmaker Saul Williams discusses his transmedia Afrofuturist universe that spans the graphic novel Martyr Loser King, the film Neptune Frost, several albums, poetry collections, and a dance performance. He explains how a chance observation of Senegalese kids using traditional talking drums alongside modern...

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From the Archives : Zadie Smith : Grand Union
PodcastMay 1, 202656 min

From the Archives : Zadie Smith : Grand Union

In this archival interview, Zadie Smith discusses her debut short‑story collection Grand Union, exploring how her awareness of mortality and the passage of time shapes her writing. She explains why she revisited and rewrote earlier stories, seeking forms that capture...

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Molly Crabapple : Here Where We Live Is Our Country : The Story of the Jewish Bund
PodcastApr 17, 20262h 29m

Molly Crabapple : Here Where We Live Is Our Country : The Story of the Jewish Bund

In this episode, host David Naiman talks with artist‑journalist Molly Crabapple about her new book *Here Where We Live Is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund*, which rescues the erased history of early‑20th‑century Jewish socialist activists in Eastern...

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Lily Brooks-Dalton : Ruins
PodcastApr 8, 20262h 12m

Lily Brooks-Dalton : Ruins

In this episode, host David Naiman talks with author Lily Brooks-Dalton about her latest novel, *Ruins*, exploring its intricate plot, themes of apocalypse, solitude, and the value of knowledge, as well as her broader body of work that tackles climate...

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Jordy Rosenberg : Night Night Fawn
PodcastMar 27, 20262h 26m

Jordy Rosenberg : Night Night Fawn

In this episode, scholar and novelist Jordi Rosenberg discusses his new novel Night Night Fawn, a genre‑bending work that intertwines autofiction, queer theory, and historical critique while exploring trans identity, Jewish assimilation, and familial trauma. Rosenberg explains how the book...

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Joan Naviyuk Kane : With Snow Pouring Southward Past the Window
PodcastMar 12, 20262h 39m

Joan Naviyuk Kane : With Snow Pouring Southward Past the Window

In this two‑hour conversation, poet Joan Naviyuk Kane discusses her new collection *With Snow Pouring Southward Past the Window*, exploring themes of home, displacement, colonial erasure, and intergenerational trauma rooted in her Inuit heritage and Alaskan upbringing. She reflects on the...

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From the Archives : Brandon Shimoda : The Grave on the Wall
PodcastMar 2, 20261h 55m

From the Archives : Brandon Shimoda : The Grave on the Wall

In this archival episode, poet and writer Brandon Shimada discusses his memoir The Grave on the Wall, which traces his grandfather’s World War II internment at Fort Missoula and situates it within a broader history of U.S. detention sites—from Indian‑War forts...

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Báyò Akómoláfé : Selah
PodcastFeb 25, 20262h 14m

Báyò Akómoláfé : Selah

In this episode of Between the Covers, host David Naiman interviews philosopher‑poet Bayo Akomolafe about his new aphoristic reader Selah, a collage of short pieces that disrupts linear thought and invites readers into a space of radical incompleteness. Akomolafe explains...

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