Easy to Leave
In this episode of Rework, co‑founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the philosophy behind making software easy to cancel, emphasizing a "no‑questions‑asked" approach and user‑friendly data export. They critique industry practices that create friction—like hidden fees, retention offers, or complex cancellation flows—that damage trust and long‑term reputation. The hosts also explore alternatives such as pausing subscriptions and highlight how transparent, humane policies turn departing users into advocates rather than angry critics. Real‑world examples, from gym memberships to Adobe’s ransom‑style cancellations, illustrate the broader impact of these choices.
Pencils Down
In this Rework episode, co‑founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the final "pencils down" phase of Basecamp 5 development, meaning no new features will be added and the team will focus on polishing and stability. They explain the upcoming...

Bring Your AI Agents to Basecamp
In this episode of Rework, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier-Hansson discuss Basecamp’s new "agent‑friendly" capabilities, which make AI agents able to interact directly with Basecamp via a command‑line interface (CLI). They explain that traditional web accessibility concepts inspired this work,...
AI Revisited - Part 2
In this episode of Rework, host Kimberly Rhodes and 37signals CEO Jason Fried discuss how AI tools like Claude and ChatGPT have become integral to their daily workflow. Jason shares concrete examples of using AI as a writing assistant to...
Product Walkthroughs, the Next Open Source Product & Other Listener Questions
In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions, covering how they record unscripted product walkthrough videos, the upcoming open‑source product Writebook, and the way the 37signals team combines Basecamp with their new kanban tool Fizzy. They...

Give It a Name
In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss how and when they choose product names, sharing stories behind names like Fizzy and Omarchy and noting that no name can satisfy every criterion. They explain the practical influence of...

Making Things that Multiply
In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss how 37signals lets strong ideas migrate across its product suite, giving each product its own design voice while allowing concepts to evolve and multiply. They explore the balance between reviving...