Leading in Chaos: Rethinking Leadership for an Uncertain World
In this episode of the Business of Government Hour, host Michael Keegan talks with leadership experts Nicholas Janney and Amy Elizabeth Fox about their new book *Leading in Chaos*. They explain how today’s “BANI” environment—brittle, anxious, non‑linear, and incomprehensible—creates a persistent state of chaos that overwhelms traditional, control‑oriented leadership models. Drawing on their work in trauma‑informed and embodied leadership, they argue that leaders must first cultivate inner coherence through healing, awakening, and integrating multiple intelligences beyond linear thinking. The conversation highlights practical antidotes such as nervous‑system regulation, emotional awareness, and a shift from tool‑centric approaches to a recoded consciousness that can thrive amid constant disruption.
AI, Human Judgment, and the Future of Child Welfare: A Conversation with Steven Hintze, Arizona Department of Child Safety
In this episode, Michael Keegan talks with Steven Hintze, Chief Data and Product Officer for the Arizona Department of Child Safety, about how AI, data, and product thinking are reshaping child welfare. Hintze explains the agency’s three‑year modernization of its...
The Mission Generation: A Conversation with Arun Gupta on Reclaiming Purpose and Rebuilding the Future.
In this episode of the Business of Government Hour, host Michael Keegan talks with Arun Gupta, CEO of the Noble Reach Foundation and co‑author of *The Mission Generation*, about a new cohort of professionals who seek to blend personal ambition...
Transforming the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs: A Conversation with Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Lawrence
In this hour-long interview, Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Lawrence outlines his role as the VA’s chief operating officer and shares the department’s strategic vision to deliver world‑class health care, benefits, and memorial services to veterans. He highlights three urgent priorities:...
Reforming the Human Services Safety Net: A Conversation with Clarence Carter, Commissioner, Tennessee Department of Human Services
In this episode, Michael Keegan talks with Clarence Carter, Tennessee’s Department of Human Services commissioner and author of *Our Net Has Holes in It*, about the systemic flaws in America’s safety‑net and how to redesign it for outcomes rather than...
Reimagining Government: Achieving the Promise of AI
In this episode of the Business of Government Hour, hosts Michael Keegan, Faisal Haack, and Eric Nelson discuss their book "Reimagining Government, Achieving the Promise of AI," outlining what an AI‑enabled government looks like and how agencies can progress through...
Exploring Government that Works
In this episode of the Business of Government Hour, host Michael Keegan talks with John M. Bernard, author of *Government That Works* and founder of America's Pulse, about the pervasive "reaction‑driven" mode of state government. Bernard explains how a constant...
Genius at Scale: How Great Leaders Drive Innovation at Scale.
In this episode of the Business of Government Hour, host Michael Keegan talks with Jason Wild, co‑author of *Genius at Scale*, about how leaders can drive innovation across organizational and sector boundaries. Wild explains the book’s ABC framework—Architects who build...
Transforming Federal Hiring & Modernizing the Workforce: A Conversation with Scott Kupor, Director, U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM)
In this episode, OPM Director Scott Cooper outlines a bold agenda to modernize federal hiring and build a high‑performance workforce. He highlights three core challenges: a demographic imbalance that leaves the federal workforce under‑represented among early‑career talent, outdated performance management...
Leading in the Age of Generative AI and Exponential Technology: A Conversation with Andrea Bonime-Blanc
In this episode, Michael Keegan talks with Andrea Bonime‑Blanc, author of *Governing Pandora*, about the unprecedented convergence of generative AI and other exponential technologies and what it means for leadership and governance. Bonime‑Blanc explains her "exponential governance mindset," a five‑part...
Embedding Strategic Foresight Into Strategic Planning: A Conversation with Professor Bert George.
In this episode, host Michael J. Keegan talks with Professor Bert George about the fundamentals of strategic foresight and how it can be woven into an organization’s strategic planning and management processes. George explains the core concepts of foresight, the...