
In this episode, host Jordan Cooney and Otterly AI CEO Thomas Paham discuss how AI-powered search engines like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Gemini are rendering traditional SEO metrics—rankings and clicks—obsolete, with the majority of queries now resulting in zero clicks. Thomas explains Otterly's approach to measuring brand visibility in AI search, emphasizing prompt research, high‑quality citation analytics, and end‑to‑end tracking that links AI mentions to traffic and revenue. He also highlights why AI search constitutes a distinct category from classic SEO tools, requiring dedicated monitoring, integration with existing MarTech stacks, and new optimization tactics. The conversation underscores the rapid market growth, Otterly’s bootstrapped success, and the emerging need for marketers to adapt to AI-driven discovery.

In this brief episode, host Tyson Stockton talks with Ahrefs' Patrick Stokes about building an effective enterprise SEO team from scratch. Stokes emphasizes hiring versatile, creative talent for technical, content, and especially video roles, and stresses the importance of personal...

In this episode of Voices of Search, host Tyson Stockton chats with Ahrefs expert Patrick Stokes about building creative, in‑house SEO teams that can stand out in the enterprise space. They discuss the challenges of scaling SEO internally, the importance...

In this brief episode of Voices of Search, host Tyson Stockton chats with Ahrefs expert Patrick Stokes about how enterprise SEO content and teams differ from smaller-scale operations. They explore the need for strategic alignment, cross‑functional collaboration, and specialized content...

In this 1‑minute 42‑second episode of Voices of Search, host Tyson Stockton chats with Ahrefs expert Patrick Stokes about building a high‑impact enterprise SEO team. They discuss the evolving nature of SEO, the importance of giving back to the community,...

In this brief episode of Voices of Search, host Tyson Stockton and Ahrefs expert Patrick Stokes discuss the biggest upcoming challenge for SEOs: proving their value and protecting budgets amid a shift toward geo‑targeted strategies. They highlight the tension between...

In this episode of Voices of Search, host Tyson Stockton talks with Ahrefs senior leader Patrick Stokes about the rapidly evolving SEO landscape, especially the impact of AI and automation. Stokes shares his mixed feelings—excitement for faster content creation but...

In this 3‑minute episode, Jordan Cooney talks with Tim Sanders, Chief Innovation Officer at G2, about a surprisingly overlooked SEO signal for AI‑driven search: using concise markdown files that highlight the top four takeaways of a page. Sanders explains that...

In this episode, Jordan Cooney talks with Tim Sanders, Chief Innovation Officer at G2, about how AI-driven search is reshaping B2B buyer behavior and the implications for SEO. Sanders shares data showing that AI visibility—such as being recommended by ChatGPT—does...