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GovtechPodcastsIs Claude Out of the War Business? W/ Amos Toh
Is Claude Out of the War Business? W/ Amos Toh
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Computer Says Maybe

Is Claude Out of the War Business? W/ Amos Toh

Computer Says Maybe
•February 25, 2026•8 min
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Computer Says Maybe•Feb 25, 2026

Why It Matters

Understanding how advanced AI like Claude is integrated into warfare raises urgent questions about accountability, civilian protection, and the legal limits of government use of private technology. As AI becomes a strategic asset, the episode spotlights the tension between innovation, national security, and ethical responsibility, making it crucial for policymakers, technologists, and the public to scrutinize these emerging military applications.

Key Takeaways

  • •Claude used in classified DoD operations during Venezuela invasion.
  • •DoD threatens Anthropic as supply chain risk over AI misuse.
  • •Legal concerns: AI aiding targeting without oversight violates war laws.
  • •Anthropic faces pressure to restrict Claude’s military applications.
  • •Debate over AI surveillance of US citizens and constitutional rights

Pulse Analysis

The episode uncovers how Anthropic’s Claude, the company’s flagship large‑language model, found its way into classified Department of Defense environments during the controversial invasion of Venezuela. Entropic, the defense contractor that licensed the model, became the sole AI provider cleared for such operations, raising immediate questions about the transparency of AI deployment in active conflict zones and the ethical responsibilities of AI firms when their technology is weaponized.

Legal experts on the show dissect the murky intersection of AI, international humanitarian law, and U.S. constitutional protections. They argue that using Claude to assist weapons targeting without sufficient human oversight may breach the principles of distinction and proportionality that govern lawful warfare. Moreover, the potential surveillance of American citizens by the same system triggers Fourth Amendment concerns, highlighting a broader debate about AI‑driven intelligence gathering and the limits of government authority in the digital age.

From a business perspective, the Department of Defense’s threat to label Entropic a supply‑chain risk could cripple Anthropic’s access to lucrative government contracts. This pressure tactic reflects a growing trend of regulatory scrutiny, dating back to the 2025 executive order demanding neutral, unbiased AI for federal use. As Anthropic navigates the tension between commercial growth and ethical constraints, the episode signals a looming shift toward stricter oversight of AI in defense, urging stakeholders to monitor how these technologies reshape modern warfare and corporate strategy.

Episode Description

Anthropic’s Claude was used in the military operation to kidnap president Maduro earlier this year. Why? Unclear. Was this legal? Absolutely not.

More like this: AI In Gaza: Live from Mexico City

Surprise, surprise: the DoD feels that they should able to use AI models however they want, as long as its lawful — but… was this lawful? They are now threatening to designate Anthropic as a supply chain risk. What does this all mean?

For this short, Alix was joined by Amos Toh, senior counsel at the Brennan Centre for Justice, to help us understand why the US defence department and an AI company are arguing about how best to us AI models for dehumanising and unjust military purposes.

Further reading & resources:

Pentagon's use of Claude during Maduro raid sparks Anthropic feud — Axios, Feb 13

Anthropic on shaky ground with Pentagon amid feud after Maduro raid — The Hill, Feb 19

US used Anthropic's Claude during the Venezuela raid, WSJ reports — Reuters, Feb 16

Pentagon Used Anthropic’s Claude in Maduro Venezuela Raid — WSJ, Feb 15

Amos’s Bluesky thread sharing more thoughts on the story

Computer Says Maybe Shorts bring in experts to give their ten-minute take on recent news. If there’s ever a news story you think we should bring in expertise on for the show, please email pod@themaybe.org

Post Production by Sarah Myles | Pre Production by Georgia Iacovou

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