
Uncensored CMO
How to Manage a Crisis with Ex United Airlines Chief of Comms, Jim Olson
Why It Matters
Understanding this disciplined approach helps leaders across industries respond swiftly and responsibly when reputational threats arise, especially in today’s hyper‑connected media environment. By applying aviation‑tested principles, organizations can protect brand trust, avoid costly missteps, and turn crises into opportunities for learning and improvement.
Key Takeaways
- •Aviate, navigate, communicate: pilot framework for any crisis
- •Sully's Hudson landing proved aviate first saves lives
- •United's mishandled response highlighted dangers of premature communication
- •Listening, learning, then leading builds trust after mergers
- •Rapid social media demands swift, accurate crisis messaging
Pulse Analysis
The episode opens with Jim Olson breaking down the timeless aviation mantra—aviate, navigate, communicate—as a universal crisis‑management playbook. By prioritizing aircraft control before decision‑making, Captain Sully Sullenberger bought precious seconds that turned a potential catastrophe into the celebrated Hudson River landing. This framework illustrates why stabilizing the core problem before crafting a public response is the most reliable way to protect lives and brand reputation.
Olson then translates the pilot’s discipline to corporate arenas, recounting high‑stakes incidents at Starbucks and United Express. In the Starbucks ISIS‑targeted attack, his team first gathered facts, identified safe landing zones for the narrative, and then delivered a clear, empathetic message. By contrast, United’s initial, premature statement after the passenger‑removal scandal amplified backlash, underscoring the perils of communicating before aviate and navigate are complete. The discussion highlights how modern social‑media velocity forces leaders to balance speed with accuracy, making the aviate‑first approach more critical than ever.
Finally, Olson emphasizes the leadership triad of listen, learn, then lead—a principle championed by United’s CEO Oscar Munoz during the post‑merger integration. Munoz’s 60‑day listening tour, even amid a life‑threatening heart attack, reinforced employee trust and aligned divergent cultures. The conversation concludes that great leaders move beyond mere communication; they connect with stakeholders, absorb real‑time feedback, and steer brands through turbulence with humility and decisive, data‑driven actions.
Episode Description
Jim Olson has spent his career helping businesses navigate moments of intense pressure from corporate crises to deeply personal challenges, running comms at United Airlines and Starbucks. In this episode, the author of Tailwind shares the lessons he’s learned from leadership, resilience, and facing adversity head-on.
Drawing inspiration from Captain Sully’s Hudson River landing, Jim explains why the best crisis leaders follow the same process: aviate, navigate, communicate. We discuss where crisis management often goes wrong, what leaders can learn from failures like United Airlines, and why “black box thinking” matters in both business and marketing.
Jim also opens up about his own cancer diagnosis and the mindset that helped him through it.
Get Jim's new book, Tailwind here:
https://www.amazon.com/Tailwind-Compass-Turning-Setback-Comeback/dp/B0GXCM3VYT/
00:00 - Start
01:11 - Lessons from Captain Sully’s Hudson River landing
06:11 - The black box thinking approach to marketing
07:30 - Other crises Jim has had to deal with in his career
09:18 - When crisis management goes wrong - United Airlines
13:11 - Managing merging two cultures
15:27 - The situation when Jim’s CEO had a heart attack
18:00 - Jim’s cancer diagnosis
23:30 - The power of positive mentality
28:30 - Don’t ask yourself what if, ask yourself why not
31:34 - The power of a fourth space
34:05 - Crisis doesn’t build character, it reveals it
37:02 - Leadership lessons from Howard Schultz
38:58 - Jim’s advice for those people facing a crisis
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