Disintermediating Pod Shops | Will England, Derek Drummond, and Tony Caruso Ep.501

Capital Allocators
Capital AllocatorsMay 11, 2026

Why It Matters

Docside’s model democratizes high‑quality hedge‑fund access, cutting costs and risk for large institutions while unlocking new capital streams for boutique managers, reshaping the industry’s distribution paradigm.

Key Takeaways

  • Docside offers institutional investors direct manager access via hedge fund infrastructure.
  • Platform provides trade‑level transparency, reducing due‑diligence costs and risk.
  • Cash‑efficient SMA model enables leverage and lower funding costs for allocators.
  • Over 60 specialist managers onboarded, creating diversified, low‑volatility portfolios.
  • White‑glove service and risk team streamline onboarding, compliance, and operations.

Summary

The episode introduces Docside, a managed‑account platform co‑founded by Walleye Capital’s Will England, Wisconsin’s Derek Drummond, and UTIMCO’s Tony Caruso. By pairing large public‑pension and endowment capital with Walleye’s multi‑manager hedge‑fund infrastructure, the joint venture gives institutional allocators direct, transparent access to individual portfolio managers without the traditional GP wrapper. Key insights include trade‑level transparency that lets allocators monitor daily buying and selling, dramatically cutting due‑diligence time and operational risk. The platform’s cash‑efficient single‑manager SMA model enables modest leverage at near‑Fed‑funds borrowing rates, delivering equity‑like returns with lower volatility. Leveraging Walleye’s risk‑management systems, Docside provides real‑time risk analytics, financing, and accounting, turning a complex multi‑manager structure into a “fund of one” for each client. Notable moments feature Derek’s analogy of watching managers like fantasy‑football scouting, Tony’s emphasis on cash efficiency, and Will’s recount of the idea sprouting over a beer and materializing within days. Today the platform hosts more than 60 specialist managers and manages billions of dollars in gross market value, illustrating rapid adoption and operational success. The broader implication is a potential reshaping of hedge‑fund distribution: institutional investors gain granular control, lower fees, and faster onboarding, while boutique managers access diversified capital without surrendering independence. This win‑win could accelerate the shift toward managed‑account platforms and diminish reliance on traditional pod‑shop structures.

Original Description

Today’s show discusses an innovative joint venture between asset owners and a multi-manager hedge fund that seeks to deliver smooth, equity-like returns at a lower cost than available in the marketplace.
My guests are Will England, Derek Drummond, and Tony Caruso. Will is the CEO and CIO of $12 billion multi-strategy hedge fund Walleye Capital. Derek is head of external public markets investing at the State of Wisconsin Investment Board, and Tony Caruso is Managing Director of hedge funds at UTIMCO. Together, they co-founded Dockside Platforms, a managed account platform that gives institutional allocators direct access to portfolio managers using the infrastructure, risk systems, and financing capabilities of a multi-strat underneath. Our conversation traces Dockside’s evolution from a barstool brainstorm to a platform with more than 60 managers and billions in assets. We discuss the accessibility of talent through managed accounts, differentiated manager sourcing, due diligence with trade-level transparency, capital efficiency across portfolios, hedging, risk management, and onboarding and exiting managers on the platform. All told, the combined heft of large asset owner capital and the sophisticated infrastructure of a multi-manager hedge fund have created a win-win for everyone involved.
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Original Publish Date: 05/11/2026

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