I’m genuinely interested in everyone’s thoughts. IMHO, what’s stoking fear @AcaciaCap isn’t our bid but the massive declines in everything from OTF, TCPC, FSK, OXLC, BPRE, the tripling of outflows for Cliffwater and Blue Owl, the frauds, the rise in bad PIK, the mis-labeling of Saas, the embellishment of what portion of the portfolios are true 1L, and a whole lot more. Saba is bidding at a smaller discount then many public BDCs. When leverage adjusted, and less manager fees (alpha is the right word only if it follows ‘negative’), and NAVs that are somewhere between wrong and very wrong, I think it’s a strong bid. If someone has a higher bid, let them show it.

This has to be one of the most bearish charts I’ve ever seen for CDX HY. One can argue that they won’t be as correlated as they’ve always been, but ‘this time is different’ may be wrong . I think...
My partner @kieranwgoodwin has been so right about this space for over a year which has really sharpened my vision. Outflows beget outflows. Gating begets outflows. Selling some of the underlying portfolio to meet minimum redemptions creates losses and begets...